All Dooku admitted was that Mace could potentially defeat him one day. Following Bulq's death, his name became known among those who worried of the fate of the Galactic Republic and whispered of the fall of the Jedi. Star Wars Rebels featured many connections to its predecessor series Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars prequels. If I recall correctly you use to favour dooku? It would play out very similar to Kenobi v Anakin on Mustafar, each player waiting on just one opening to take the victory. Still a close match. “Masking the future is this disturbance in the Force,” Yoda replied. Dooku did not admit Windu was better, it was a stalemate. Jedi: Count Dooku is the fourth issue in the Star Wars: Jedi series of comics it was published in December 3, 2003 by Dark Horse Comics. Stalemate. This is only his opinion, of course, but considering his own prowess as a Force adept and lightsaber combatant, not to mention his knowledge of both of them, I find it fair to acknowledge his opinion. People do have a point about his Vaapad not amping him as much because Dooku isn't all about anger and the darkside... but he does use it, and in the doing will just amp Windu. As was mentioned, he defeated Sidious and could counter his deadliest move. That was a one time thing..and Dooku wasn't part of the Republic during Order 66 nor anytime close to that. But the Clone Wars had given him a gift of understanding: on a world called Haruun Kal, he had faced his darkness and had learned that the … MACE WINDU: He Kept Anakin In Check. Sith Lord. This was not the Mace Windu he knew and admired; it was as though the darkness in the Force was so much thicker here on Coruscant that it had breathed poison into Mace's spirit—and perhaps was even breeding suspicion and dissension among the members of the Jedi Council.The greatest danger from the darkness outside came when Jedi fed it with the darkness within. Dooku never had a chance at beating Yoda (later on he lost to him on Vjun, a planet steeped in dark side powers, further cementing Yoda's superiority). As such, he commanded incredible influence over the Jedi Council and subsequently the Jedi Order itself. It will come down to a lightsaber duel and even if you think Dooku is a better duelist Mace would outlast him due to his age. However, it is just as likely that he would still escape by endangering Kenobi and Anakin’s lives. Dooku. Anakin and Obi-Wan would likely have been crushed. this would be one of those battles that just goes on and on, makashi vs vaapad sounds mind boggling but even with shatter point i have a feeling darth tyrannus would win because unlike sidious (who focuses so much of his power in the dark side which vaapad counters) dooku doesn't focus purely on using the darkside…you might even call him a light sith (that is a sith that uses both lightside and darkside knowledge to further there own ends... so a bit like a dark jedi, this also explains why tyrannus suffered from no dark side degradation what so ever) so its the dark jedi vs the light sith anywho i think dooku would take it. Dooku never had a chance at beating Yoda (later on he lost to him on Vjun, a planet steeped in dark side powers, further cementing Yoda's superiority). In combat, I can see Mace taking it almost every time in combat, Yay, shit I said actually made some difference~, Mace would beat him. Mismatch. 5/10 but I personally lean a little towards Dooku. Obi-Wan's heart clenched. But to give a definitive answer for the scenario I would say Windu. And his feats don't really suggest that he's the type of person that Dooku can dispose of with ease in combat. Equally as skilled (if not very slightly more), just as fast, and slightly more powerful with the Force. War itself pours darkness into the Force, deepening the cloud that limits Jedi perception. @beingfatissupercool: Mace wouldn't have the same amp against Dooku he had when he was fighting Sidious. ... Set in the Star Wars expanded universe during the Clone Wars conflict between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Page 3 of 4 ... Trophy Points: 6,857 Joined: Mar 19, 2006. Could Mace have beaten Dooku on Geonosis? Despite this, he was highly compassionate and extremely brave, as he willingly risked life and limb many times to protect the people of the Republic, as well as his fellow Jedi and even the clone troopers under his command… On Star Wars, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Mace Windu vs Count Dooku". There would be no betrayal invovled.. Dooku 6.5/10 due to considerably greater power in the force. And the clones have no malice, no hatred, not the slightest ill intent that might give warning. Yoda was also of the opinion that they were equal on neutral ground. For two hundred years before the coming of Darth Sidious the power of the dark side had been gaining strength, and yet the Jedi had made only minimal efforts to thwart it. As for force abilities, He was said to be second only to anakin and yoda in ability. Yoda lifted 5 of them. One hundred years earlier, Tenebrous's Twi'lek Master had opened a small rend in the fabric of the Force, allowing the dark side to be felt by the Jedi Order for the first time in more than eight hundred years. That had been the case with the Jedi Order. Thanks to u/BasedJosie for the prompt about Mace vs. Grievous, hope you don't mind if I take it a step backwards. new listing star wars black series mace windu 82 moc attack of the clones count dooku jango. Mace understood well the source of that weariness. ", Well, to be fair, it was actually Darth Tyranus who recruited and trained Grievous, and it's been established that Dooku & Sidious are Grievous superiors, so Dooku>Grievous easily, cause Dooku is actually Grievies's master and taught him all he knows, so Dooku would own Grievous, cause Dooku is far superior in the Force than grievous ever will be, no matter hower far he gets with his skill, as would Windu, in the end :-), obi wan kenobi had grevious beat in the sabers department in less than a minuite, if obi wan can beat him without the force, dooku would own grevious, my vote goes for mace due to better feats. ", “Do you think the Sith are behind this present disturbance?” Mace dared to ask.“Out there, they are,” Yoda said with resignation. Such reversals troubled Mace, as they left the Jedi Order unprepared for what was yet to come. The enigmatic, charismatic Count Dooku is all of these things. Dooku and Windu met in the old canon and Dooku fled. And still going with Dooku. It's an epic entrance … Dooku seemed to be already tired from his duel with Anakin, and was forced to flee when Yoda arrived. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Star Wars Jedi and Sith lot: Count Dooku Grievous Maul Mace Windu Saesee Tiin at the best online prices at eBay! The Sith were pleased by the fact that the Jedi, too, had been allowed to grow so powerful, because, in the end, their sense of entitlement would blind them to what was occurring in their midst. He’s embraced the “great warrior” moniker that Yoda later insists might not make one great. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Enjoy! The Clone Wars Season 7. however, by the end of the Clone Wars, i think Obi-Wan and Anakin have surpassed Mace and Dooku. The diminutive Jedi seemed tired. he takes both of his hands in one stroke, for Pete's sake. With Grievous at the head of the CIS and Sidious without an apprentice, would the Clone Wars have been drastically shortened? However, Mace and Dooku have been compared before. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I can’t remember where, but I believe it was suggested that Windu and Dooku were considered equals in lightsaber combat. Hero. Didn't factor in Dooku's fatigue, thought he took out Anakin pretty fast. The official Star Wars Instagram account wished actor Samuel L. Jackson a happy birthday, while strongly hinting Jackson may be reprising the role of Jedi Master Mace Windu. When Mace and Dooku fought on Boz Pity, it was brief and without anyone holding the advantage. This could actually have been worse for the Jedi. The tide of the dark side was proving to be irresistable. There was a time when Mace Windu had feared the power of the dark; there was a time when he had feared the darkness in himself. The notifications aren't working, by the way. “A certainty that is.”, Source: Attack of the Clones novelization, “Blind we are, if the development of this clone army we could not see,” Yoda remarked.“I think it is time to inform the Senate that our ability to use the Force has diminished.”“Only the Dark Lords of the Sith know of our weakness,” Yoda replied. Edit: They were called Muntuur Stones and there were 7 of them. Wasp we all know you bumped it. "Yes, there is conflict. A cautious and wary individual, he was opposed to Anakin Skywalker's acceptance into the Jedi Order and was doubtful of th… If you click on them, they just redirect you to the notifications page again. He had feared he might find matters had deteriorated when he returned to Coruscant and the Temple; not even in his darkest dreams had he thought it would get this bad. Both Dooku and Windu bring their own mastery of their respective lightsaber combat styles, Makashi and Vaapad. Mace had a unique personality for a Jedi. On a semi related note, why didn't any of the Jedi use the force to destroy Dooku's getaway ship when they first got there? I actually doubt there'd be a solid conclusion if the two fought. I meant to say Palpatine not Dooku. Considering the speed, reflex's and skill required to take down Sideous, frankly i'm not even sure if it's close. The only Jedi to lift all 7 was Master Ferleen Snee. That had been the inauguration, the commencement of the revenge of the Sith. Despite treating Anakin terribly half the time, it would seem … I guess crushing a ship with the Force is best left for Starkiller. @shootingnova: Out of curiosity why the change in opinion? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. @shootingnova: It's interesting going through this thread and seeing the opinions change throughout the years. Than Windu fought and beat Dooku's master. The peaceful world of Bardotta and its mystic ways are threatened by an ancient prophecy, and its top spiritual leaders have vanished. I'm saying 5/10. @jashro44: Just the fact that Mace is second only to Yoda and Anakin in terms of Force Power within the Order. Tyrant. What do you think would happen to the war effort afterwards though? In the Jedi temple there are 6 massive stones that Jedi can attempt to lift with the force. Without Annie to save him if he fights Mace he might lose. Jedi. Too evenly matched. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Dooku is perfectly prepared to kill Master Windu. And how would Sidious have to alter his plan now that everything is not going as he has foreseen? [6] Overwhelmed by the droids' superior numbers, the Jedi were cornered into the center of the Geonosian Petranaki arena. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. However, the difference in combative abilities between them isn't all that significant. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Star Wars: The High Republic #1 by Cavan Scott, Ario Anindito, Mark Morales, Annalisa Leoni & VC's Ariana Maher, on sale now. The Clone Wars. And now the time had come to enlarge that rend into a gaping hole, a gaping wound, into which the Republic and the Jedi Order would to their own hazard be drawn. c $40.75 0 bids So, to answer your question, yes, Mace could have beaten Dooku. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! I like this matchup. He is up there with Yoda and Dark Sidius, and He is better than them with a lightsaber. However, Mace Windu os a major wartime figure for the Jedi, and he orchestrates the Republic's actions during the war, not unlike Palpatine. Stop deletin your comment. And if Yoda is struggling to catch and hold that weight, no other Jedi could. If someone held a gun to my head and demanded an answer, I'd lean towards Dooku. A Jedi would lift as many at once as they could. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Recognizing the importance of Bardotta's spiritual balance, the Jedi Council send… They are only following orders. For the two Jedi Masters, this surprising development was troubling on several different levels. [17] As such, Windu agreed that the Chancellor would have to be removed by force and further added that the Council would have to take control of the Senate[3] in order to maintain peace during the transitional period. "This Party's Over." While he fights t… They were widely considered to be on par with each other as Jedi, and Dooku had beaten Mace before (the reverse would most likely be true as well). The Prequels show how the Jedi exist as peacekeepers who maintain order. Source: Star Wars Episode III Visual Dictionary. However, Mace and Dooku have been compared before. On the Wings of Keeradaks; Unfinished Business; Gone with a Trace Yeah but that actually means that Palps might fail. When Dooku collapses that big heavy pipe and Yoda has to catch it with the force, to me it looks like he's struggling a bit. Yoda sensed that the dark side was gathering and growing more powerful. As the end of the Clone Wars draws near, he forsees that the most significant dangers to the Jedi Order have yet to be faced. The dark side is growing.”“And only those who have turned to the dark side can sense the possibilities of the future,” Yoda said. Would he want Dooku to die as he wanted with Sidious on Coruscant? Renegade. So the end result would either be the same as before or with the Jedi in a much worse position. @shootingnova: Alright thanks for the info. Windu prefers that Dooku live, but will resort to lethal mesures if necessary. The real problem arises if they come to a stalemate and Dooku escapes in the same way he does when was fighting Yoda. Although he had defeated Dooku for now, it was difficult to imagine what other dark side terrors were to come. Count Dooku and Mace Windu are connected through Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith (novel), Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, Labyrinth of Evil and more.. Related. They're even in sabers and Dooku is slightly more masterful with the force, so I'd say Dooku 5.5-6/10. How was Mace then able to overpower Palpatine, if Yoda couldn't do it? 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